# Universal remote recommendations with state (discreet on/off) **URL:** \ **Category:** Fans\ **Created:** [April 26, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.bondhome.io/t/universal-remote-recommendations-with-state-discreet-on-off/183 "2018-04-26T15:01:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Terk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.bondhome.io/terk/32/44_2.png) [@Terk](https://forum.bondhome.io/u/Terk)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.bondhome.io/t/universal-remote-recommendations-with-state-discreet-on-off/183/1 "2018-04-26T15:01:25Z")
I’m looking to replace a few ceiling fan remote modules with ones Bond can know the state of or that has discreet on/off options for both the fan and lights for use with ST via IFTTT for now until full ST integration is ready, and hoping someone can provide a suggestion for a reliable remote for this? With my current remote Bond doesn’t know the current state and so when IFTTT sends an off command it just toggles the lights so most of the time they come on rather than turn off. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![merck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.bondhome.io/merck/32/1238_2.png) [@merck](https://forum.bondhome.io/u/merck)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.bondhome.io/t/universal-remote-recommendations-with-state-discreet-on-off/183/2 "2018-04-26T15:20:42Z")
EDIT: Please consider a Smart by Bond kit instead. It has built-in WiFi and so it always knows the correct state, and you get state feedback upon changes made with the factory remote. There’s currently only one model, made by a partner of ours and sold via HomeDepot: [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Smart-Wi-Fi-4-Speed-Ceiling-Fan-Remote-Works-with-Google-Assistant-SmartThings-and-Alexa-99434/311264804](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Smart-Wi-Fi-4-Speed-Ceiling-Fan-Remote-Works-with-Google-Assistant-SmartThings-and-Alexa-99434/311264804) (Currently out of stock on HomeDepot, but that should change any day now.) * * * OLD POST: This is currently my go-to remote+receiver kit: [https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Thermostatic-Ceiling-Control-Conversion/dp/B001RJ8X0M/ref=pd\_sim\_60\_2?\_encoding=UTF8&pd\_rd\_i=B001RJ8X0M&pd\_rd\_r=TDX3DFX57YBW411NXR72&pd\_rd\_w=8PU73&pd\_rd\_wg=pw1sU&psc=1&refRID=TDX3DFX57YBW411NXR72](https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Thermostatic-Ceiling-Control-Conversion/dp/B001RJ8X0M/ref=pd_sim_60_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001RJ8X0M&pd_rd_r=TDX3DFX57YBW411NXR72&pd_rd_w=8PU73&pd_rd_wg=pw1sU&psc=1&refRID=TDX3DFX57YBW411NXR72) It has a flexible light dimmer that transmits the full state of the device with each transmission. It’s only 3-speed though. ---
**Author:** ![Terk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.bondhome.io/terk/32/44_2.png) [@Terk](https://forum.bondhome.io/u/Terk)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.bondhome.io/t/universal-remote-recommendations-with-state-discreet-on-off/183/3 "2018-04-26T16:54:38Z")
Thanks, I’ll give that a try! ---
**Author:** ![RearAdmiral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@RearAdmiral](https://forum.bondhome.io/u/RearAdmiral)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.bondhome.io/t/universal-remote-recommendations-with-state-discreet-on-off/183/4 "2020-05-27T22:59:20Z")
This thread is a bit old, so I am curious if the remote that you suggested is still your go-to device or are there other devices you would currently recommend for ceiling fan/light control. I just purchased a Bond with a new ceiling fan and I would like to begin to convert some other fans over as well. ---
**Author:** ![merck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.bondhome.io/merck/32/1238_2.png) [@merck](https://forum.bondhome.io/u/merck)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.bondhome.io/t/universal-remote-recommendations-with-state-discreet-on-off/183/5 "2020-06-02T16:56:34Z")
I updated my earlier post. Indeed we’ve got a better mousetrap now. The Smart by Bond kits would be the ticket for converting your other AC fans that don’t already have remote controls. [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Smart-Wi-Fi-4-Speed-Ceiling-Fan-Remote-Works-with-Google-Assistant-SmartThings-and-Alexa-99434/311264804](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Universal-Smart-Wi-Fi-4-Speed-Ceiling-Fan-Remote-Works-with-Google-Assistant-SmartThings-and-Alexa-99434/311264804) ---
**Author:** ![RearAdmiral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@RearAdmiral](https://forum.bondhome.io/u/RearAdmiral)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.bondhome.io/t/universal-remote-recommendations-with-state-discreet-on-off/183/6 "2020-06-02T19:25:23Z")
Thanks for sharing merck. Now I just have to wait for them to come back in stock.